Quotes by topic from New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) sources

These quotes from NAR teachers are very enlightening. They should serve as documentation, in their own words, on what they teach. Also, I’ve underlined particularly interesting parts of those quotes. Finally, I’ll continue to add to this list.

 

Apostles and Disciples

“What is the difference between committed disciples and commissioned apostles? Exsousia! This is not power as the KJV translates it. Rather it is “the right to power” or authority…He is one commissioned and authorized to fully represent his sender. He represents in his person the one who commissioned him.  (Matthew 10:1-2)…So, while Greek apostolos gives us the form of the New Testament apostle, it is the Hebrew Sheliach that provides the content. A Sheliach-Apostolos is the full representative of his sender. As the Rabbis said: “The Sheliach of a man is as the man himself” (Beraita 5:5). Gerhard Kittel says: “The Sheliach (of Jesus) is as good as his Sender in all he says and does in the execution of his mission” (K., TDNT, 1:415).” (http://www.icaleaders.com/about-ical/definition-of-apostle)
12 ministries of apostles

“There are 12 ministries that we can expect of all apostles. They won’t all perform them the same way or to the same degree, but they will be characterized by these activities” (p. 28); receive revelation, cast vision, birth, in part, build, govern, teach, send, finish, war, align generations, and equip (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today (p. 2). Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, pp. 28-29)

12 characteristics of apostles

“In addition to what apostles do, there are 12 characteristics that are displayed by many (if not most) apostles—though not by all.” (p. 30), seeing Jesus personally, performing supernatural manifestations such as signs and wonders, planting churches, appointing and overseeing local church pastors (or “elders”), settling disputes in the church, applying discipline, including excommunication, providing spiritual covering for other leaders, suffering physical persecution, attracting and distributing financial resources, casting out demons, breaking curses of witchcraft, frequent fasting, (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today (p. 2). Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition. pp. 30-33)

A list of apostles in history

“Still, looking back, who could deny that great men such as Gregory Thaumaturgus, Martin of Tours, Patrick of Ireland, Benedict of Nursia, Boniface, Anselm of Canterbury, Savanarola, John Wyclif, Martin Luther, Francis Xavier, John Knox, John Wesley, William Booth, William Carey, Hudson Taylor, and others throughout the centuries were true apostles?” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today (p. 2). Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition. p. 7)

Apostle defined

“An apostle is a Christian leader, gifted, taught, commissioned, and sent by God with the authority to establish the foundational government of the church within an assigned sphere of ministry by hearing what the Spirit is saying to the churches and by setting things in order accordingly for the growth and maturity of the church and for the extension of the kingdom of God.” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today (p. 2). Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition. p. 27)

Apostles have authority

“While there are several things that distinguish apostles from other members of the Body of Christ, the major characteristic that stands out over the others is their exceptional authority (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today (p. 2). Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition. p. 22).
”the apostle is the one who has earned the trust of the pastors and other leaders; and trust inevitably imparts authority.” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today (p. 2). Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition. p. 23).

Gift of apostle is permanent

“Both then and now, the gift of apostle, once given by God, becomes a special attribute of the individual; and that individual is responsible for using it wisely as a good steward of the grace of God. Knowing that God has entrusted them with the gift of apostle, and not fearing that God may suddenly take that gift from them, is one thing that confers extraordinary authority on true apostles.” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today (p. 2). Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition. p. 56).

Apostles and Prophets

Without apostles and prophets, the church has no foundation

“If a church has Jesus without apostles and prophets, it has no foundation from which to initiate solid building. The two go hand in hand; there cannot be one without the other. The two go hand in hand; there cannot be one without the other.” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today, Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, p. 11)

Its official

“…recognition of the offices of apostle and prophet has become official. In January 2004, Strang Communications convened a consultation of 50 to 60 high-level Pentecostal, Charismatic and apostolic leaders to discuss the issue. The forthcoming “Orlando Statement” says, “We affirm that there is an ongoing post-New Testament activity of the charismata of 1 Corinthians 12, as well as the ministries of pastor, teacher, and evangelist described in Ephesians 4. Therefore, it would naturally follow that we affirm the ongoing post-New Testament activity of apostles and prophets.” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today, Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, p. 21).

Apostolic Age

Second Apostolic Age is here

“The Second Apostolic Age is a phenomenon of the twenty-first century. My studies indicate that it began around the year 2001.” (p. 6)

Charismatic Gifts

“The cessation of miracles is a doctrine devised by the mind of man, created to comply with the belief that the season for them no longer exists.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, pp. 57-58)

Church

Now is the time of major changes in the church

“We are now living in the midst of one of the most epochal changes in the structure of the Church that has ever been recorded. I like to call it the “Second Apostolic Age.” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today, Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, p. 6)
“It is a “reformation” because we are currently witnessing the most radical change in the way of “doing church” since the Protestant Reformation.” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today, Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, p. 9)

Faith

“That is the great strength of faith. It stands when reasoning falls.”Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth (p. 43). Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
“…faith does not come from the mind; it comes from the heart.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 139)

Holiness

Is attainable

“I now believe that it is possible to live without sin, one day at a time. Holiness is not merely some desirable but elusive ideal. Holiness is an attainable personal quality.” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today, Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, p. 40).

Holy Spirit, the

Releasing the Holy Spirit

“In Matthew 10:8, Jesus told His disciples that they had something to give, by commanding them, “Freely you received; freely give.” Love requires giving. “For God so loved the world, that He gave . . .” (John 3:16). While I believe He is primarily referring to releasing the Holy Spirit, the lesson could apply to anything He has given us…” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 22)

Note: I do not believe he is exegetically sound here.  He seems to be reading into the text.

When the Holy Spirit moves

“The most exciting time in the life of the Church is when the Holy Spirit begins to move in power.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 54)

and Jesus

“The Holy Spirit helps us read the Scriptures with the provision that Jesus is the answer.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 82)

“Please note that I emphasize living aware of the Holy Spirit in and upon me more than the problem. In other words, I am not just looking for a doctrinal statement to make me feel better in the situation. I am looking for Him, the Person of the Holy Spirit. I am looking to recognize the One in whom is all safety, victory and joy, who continually positions me for triumph to the glory of Jesus’ name.” J(Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 98)
“Every aspect of the life of the believer is made successful or not according to our relationship with the Holy Spirit.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 113)

International coalition of apostles

Over 400 apostles

“Not long ago, I found myself on the platform officially opening the annual meeting of the International Coalition of Apostles. As I recall, there were about 400 apostles present.” (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today, Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, p. 43).

Meditation

“In cultic meditation, people empty their minds. That is dangerous because many spirits are looking for entrance into a person’s life to bring the influence of darkness. Empty minds are invitations to the demonic. Biblical meditation is quite different. It means to fill our minds with what God says, running it over and over in our minds and hearts until the truth takes root in us.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, pp. 97-98)

NAR

Origin of NAR

“The Second Apostolic Age began roughly in 2001, heralding the most radical change in the way church is done since the Protestant Reformation.” (http://www.icaleaders.com/about-ical/definition-of-apostle)

Prophecy

“All contemporary, Holy Spirit filled believers are able to prophesy by faith and can learn the ways that God speaks as well as increase in the ability to prophesy. In a sense, this means everyone has the privilege and the obligation to hear from God for themselves.” (Loren, Julia. Shifting Shadow of Supernatural Power: A Prophetic manual for Those Wanting to Move in God’s Supernatural Power, Destiny Image. Kindle Edition, p. 68).

Postmillennialism

“The end of it all is the saints possessing the kingdom here on Earth. This is established several verses earlier: “The saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom forever, even forever and ever” (Dan. 7:18).” (Johnny Enlow. The Seven Mountain Prophecy: Unveiling the Coming Elijah Revolution (Kindle Locations 1592-1593). Kindle Edition)

Prophets

IMPORTANT: “Many think that a false prophet is uncovered when a prophetic word is inaccurate, but that is not necessarily true. Study the prophecies of Agabus in the book of Acts. He was a true prophet of God, as acknowledged by the Holy Spirit, but not all the details of his word to Paul were accurate.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 40).
Notes Added by CARM:

Acts 11:27–30, “Now at this time some prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch. 28 One of them named Agabus stood up and began to indicate by the Spirit that there would certainly be a great famine all over the world. And this took place in the reign of Claudius. 29 And in the proportion that any of the disciples had means, each of them determined to send a contribution for the relief of the brethren living in Judea. 30 And this they did, sending it in charge of Barnabas and Saul to the elders.”
“So shall the Jews bind the man that owneth this girdle, &c.—For though the Romans did it, it was at the Jews’ instigation (Ac 21:33; Ac 28:17). Such dramatic methods of announcing important future events would bring the old prophets to remembrance. (Compare Is 20:2, &c. Je 13:1, and Ez 5:1, &c.). This prediction and that at Tyre (Ac 21:4) were intended, not to prohibit him from going, but to put his courage to the test and when he stood the test, to deepen and mature it.” (Jamieson, Robert, A. R. Fausset, and David Brown. Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible. Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1997.)

Verified here: Acts 2:22 “Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know— 23 this Man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.”

Revivals and conversions

“Revivals never start with the watchdogs. Never.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 54).
“The numbers of conversions in this hour are staggering. The sheer numbers of people being raised from the dead are beyond comprehension. Church planting is at an all-time high. The transformation of cities and nations is climbing rapidly. The leaders of nations and industries are turning to Jesus in record numbers.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 80)

Scripture

“The concern of something not being biblical takes center stage as we try to eat the meat and throw away the bones. We all tend to interpret what is before us by our knowledge of Scripture learned from our own history. The problem is that we all have limited knowledge and exposure to truth. Let’s hope what we know is true, but what we know is also limited. That is true for all of us…Some go into fear mode, thinking that emotional experiences are in excess, and that excess is our greatest danger. It is true that emotionalism has caused problems for the Church throughout history. But extreme emotionalism is easy to spot. Rather, the quiet unbelief and resistance from the skeptic is a far greater enemy. It is a powerful deceiver because it has become accepted in much of the world’s church culture as wisdom and spiritual intelligence. It is neither. If we value something wrong, it has permission to stay. Which is more dangerous, to interpret Scripture out of our experience.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth,  Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, pp. 54-55)
“One of the primary issues that Jesus had with the scribes and Pharisees was their approach to the Scriptures. They were very learned by the educational standards around them. They could quote, recite and teach others the commands of God, along with the commands they created from what they thought God wanted. But they could not do what they taught others to do. There was no impartation of grace that actually enabled them to obey the Word they studied.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, pp. 74-75).

Sickness

“You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.” Acts 10:38 This verse gives us a synopsis of what is already revealed throughout the gospels: Jesus healed and delivered all who came to Him. It also reveals that sickness is from the devil.”  (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 20.”
Notes added by CARM

Exodus 4:11, “The Lord said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the Lord?”

Skepticism

“Some cultures exalt skepticism as a virtue. Their greatest fear is being gullible or misled. The fear of being wrong prevents them from ever really being right. Such a deception sells books to the fearful, but does little to shape the course of history through bold faith for the glory of God. Skepticism masquerades as wisdom and is applauded by those without experience. To maintain their own positions, they question the rights of others to continue moving forward. In some church cultures, this kind of approach to God is treasured, as scary as that seems. It is a self-affirming approach to the supernatural that basically denies God’s involvement in the day-to-day issues of our lives. And anyone who seems to think that God actually cares about such things is quickly marked as delusional. This is a group that asks for proof.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth, Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition, p. 104)

Spiritual gifts

Situational view of spiritual gifts

“The situational view of spiritual gifts assumes that all of the gifts are available to be given to all believers at any time they are needed. Since an individual is filled with the Holy Spirit, all the gifts of the Holy Spirit must be resident. In other words, when a situation demands that a certain ministry be applied, God will activate in the individual the appropriate spiritual gift to accomplish that ministry.”  (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today, Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, p. 53).

Constitutional view of the spiritual gifts

“The constitutional view of spiritual gifts takes more literally the biblical analogy of the Body of Christ, with gifted persons expected to function in unique capacities within the body.”  (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today, Baker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, p. 53).
“In this view, gifts are given as lifetime possessions, and those who have them are responsible for using them effectively over the long haul.”  (Wagner, C. Peter. Apostles Today, BBaker Publishing Group. Copywrite 2006, Kindle Edition, p. 54).

Third Heaven

“Ian Clayton, a prophet in New Zealand, believes these “greater things” include personally experiencing the domain of the third heaven, which is the domain of God and fourth dimension miracles such as teleportations, walking through walls, and dematerializing in order to pass unharmed through a murderous crowd, walking on water, raising the dead, and performing miraculous works that transcend our natural laws of physics. Clayton is no stranger to the supernatural as revealed in Chapter 2. He has experienced many of the fourth-dimension miracles listed above, as have others, and regularly seeks to commune with God, not so much on earth, but in Heaven. He believes that as sons and daughters of the King, we have a right to explore the realm of Heaven and to walk back into the realms of earth bearing His presence, revelation and power. The realms of Heaven Clayton walks in include glimpses of the Garden in Eden, the throne room of God and areas of His Kingdom that few have seen and even fewer have words to describe.”  (Loren, Julia. Shifting Shadow of Supernatural Power: A Prophetic Manual for Those Wanting to Move in God’s Supernatural Power, Destiny Image. Kindle Edition, pp. 162-163).
Astral Projection?

“Prophets Shawn Boltz and Patricia King have written about their experiences walking in the throne room of Heaven along with other revelatory ministers. John Sandford talks about his experiences involving accessing Heaven, the throne room, and entering into the council chambers of God. Clayton demystifies the experience by explaining that accessing Heaven can be a learned experience: Entering the realm of the Kingdom is a learned experience. The spirit-man can go with Jesus and walk with God because the Holy Spirit resides in your body.” (Loren, Julia. Shifting Shadow of Supernatural Power: A Prophetic Manual for Those Wanting to Move in God’s Supernatural Power, Destiny Image. Kindle Edition, p. 163).

Truth

“Truth is progressive and multi-dimensional. It constantly evolves as we grow, though it never evolves into something that contradicts its foundations. There are measures and levels of anointing that cause the reality of the Scripture to change for us. A generation is forming now that will walk in an anointing that has never been known by mankind, including the original 12 disciples. This generation won’t need natural illustrations to help them understand what their spiritual task is. They will move into spiritual territory that defies the natural order. God wants to give us revelations and experiences of Heaven that have no earthly parallel. Jesus told Nicodemus, “If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?” (John 3:12) He longed to talk about things that His disciples were not ready to receive.” (Loren, Julia. with Mahesh Chavda and Bill Johnson.  Shifting Shadow of Supernatural Power: A Prophetic Manual for Those Wanting to Move in God’s Supernatural Power (p. 191). Destiny Image. Shippensburg, PA, 2006, Kindle Edition.)

Mahesh and Bonnie Chavda are pastors of All Nations Church, (http://www.chavdaministries.org/Groups/1000060585/
Chavda_Ministries_International/All_Nations_Church/About/About.aspx) 360 Hammond Road, Fort Mill, SC 29715, info@allnationschurch.us; 704-543-7272

Watchdogs

“Many of those who have noticed their passion for God wane have also received a fresh surge of faith that dispels their unbelief during meetings where the presence of God manifests in unusual ways. Yet those who display antichrist attitudes that reject the Holy Spirit, a significant member of the Trinitarian God-head, are wide open to the commentators who seek to prey upon fear and release a measure of control. Calling themselves watchdogs over wrong theology, these commentators often turn the faith of many into fear—in direct violation of the very Scriptures they profess to protect.” (Loren, Julia. Shifting Shadow of Supernatural Power: A Prophetic Manual for Those Wanting to Move in God’s Supernatural Power,  Destiny Image. Kindle Edition, pp. 164-165).

Women Pastors

Another reason we are so pastorally weak is that we have excluded or limited women from stepping into this role. Women often seem more wired for intercession than men, and this is also the case with pastoring-perhaps even more so. Many women have a natural gift for nurturing, and when we finally recognize enough of them in their proper role, we will have a church that much better represents the heart of our Good Shepherd.” (Johnny Enlow. The Seven Mountain Prophecy: Unveiling the Coming Elijah Revolution (Kindle Locations 1995-1997). Kindle Edition.)

Worship

“God is quite secure in who He is. He does not look for worship. But He does look for worshipers.” (Johnson, Bill. Experience the Impossible: Simple Ways to Unleash Heaven’s Power on Earth (p. 109). Baker Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.)

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